I liked that 4e bridged the gap between casters and martials. I recall the controversy in 3.5 where some small vocal group of players complained when “Book of 9 swords” gave fighters some versatility.
I loved 4e and think it was a great version of D&D. A lot of 5e is just 4e with different text layout and a lot of 4e was explicit descriptions of things that have been a part of D&D since day one.
I tell people that 4e shouldn't have been called Dungeons and Dragons because it was so different, and it is true, it was different. But, at the same time you could totally argue that 3rd edition could have been said it wasn't dungeons and dragons because it was so fundamental different from Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. The only reason I acknowledge the "its not d&d" argument is I truly feel if it wasn't a version of D&D the system would still be around and and thriving, especially in the wake of how crappy 5e is. I believe people would have been jumping ship to the game that 4e would have been if it was another game that existed in parallel to D&D as opposed to a previous version. I love 4e, I mean if 4e was a chick id put a ring on its finger and have it bare my children, its my favorite fantasy system bar none. I don't understand the hate other then people just didn't like something different. I haven't found a single person who has bad mouthed 4e, called it a video game instead of a role playing game, or any of the other insults, who ever even played it, they just repeat the insults they heard from others without even giving it a chance, How can a heavily tactical turned based experience be like an MMO. 4e was like the Amiga of rpgs, it was far ahead of its time, and Wotc just didn't know what to do with it, didn't know how to market it. got greedy with its product licensing, and it cost us the best version of D&D the ever made.
5E was my first foray into DnD and as I’ve often said, it will always have a special place in my heart. It’s the version that my family still wants to play so that’s what we play. I still like it and like playing it. 😊😊
I liked that 4e bridged the gap between casters and martials. I recall the controversy in 3.5 where some small vocal group of players complained when “Book of 9 swords” gave fighters some versatility.
I loved 4e and think it was a great version of D&D. A lot of 5e is just 4e with different text layout and a lot of 4e was explicit descriptions of things that have been a part of D&D since day one.
https://www.geekeratimedia.com/p/zones-of-control-a-history-of-miniatures
I tell people that 4e shouldn't have been called Dungeons and Dragons because it was so different, and it is true, it was different. But, at the same time you could totally argue that 3rd edition could have been said it wasn't dungeons and dragons because it was so fundamental different from Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. The only reason I acknowledge the "its not d&d" argument is I truly feel if it wasn't a version of D&D the system would still be around and and thriving, especially in the wake of how crappy 5e is. I believe people would have been jumping ship to the game that 4e would have been if it was another game that existed in parallel to D&D as opposed to a previous version. I love 4e, I mean if 4e was a chick id put a ring on its finger and have it bare my children, its my favorite fantasy system bar none. I don't understand the hate other then people just didn't like something different. I haven't found a single person who has bad mouthed 4e, called it a video game instead of a role playing game, or any of the other insults, who ever even played it, they just repeat the insults they heard from others without even giving it a chance, How can a heavily tactical turned based experience be like an MMO. 4e was like the Amiga of rpgs, it was far ahead of its time, and Wotc just didn't know what to do with it, didn't know how to market it. got greedy with its product licensing, and it cost us the best version of D&D the ever made.
5E was my first foray into DnD and as I’ve often said, it will always have a special place in my heart. It’s the version that my family still wants to play so that’s what we play. I still like it and like playing it. 😊😊
I’m a big fan of 4e! It was designed to purpose, very difficult to break, easy to learn. It was a mini combat game, but so was 3.5 at the time